NEW MEMBERS
JOHN C. BRANDT-KNIGHT (jbrandt@ucla.edu)
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I have found that I descend from two TALIAFERRO lines. The first, which
is the Capt. TALIAFERRO-Jane CRAIG line. I descend from Rev. Joseph CRAIG,
born 11 June 1741 and Sally WISDOM, who had a daughter, Jane CRAIG, born
ca 1763 and married Robin ASHURST. I have a great deal of information on
this line if anyone is searching this TALIAFERRO line.
The second line is one that I recently discovered when I was searching for my BARTLETT line. I found that Anthony FOSTER, born ca 1702 in Essex County, VA, the son of Robert FOSTER and Elizabeth GARNET, married ca 1720 Martha TALIAFERRO, born ca 1700. They had a daughter, Mary FOSTER, born 1743 in Essex County, VA who married Thomas BARTLETT in 1755. I am looking for the parents of Martha TALIAFERRO.
QUERIES
DAVID WISDOM (WKPT13C@prodigy.com ) submits two queries. [Note
the proliferation of Wisdoms in this issue - see New Member Profile of
John Brandt above.
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FIRST QUERY:
Seeking parents of ELIZABETH TALIAFERRO b.c. 1670s. Married John
Catlett before Oct. 20, 1706, in Essex, VA. They had child
Margaret (Mary?) Catlett who married Jonathan Gibson.
John Catlett is suppose to be son of Sheriff John Catlett, Jr. and Elizabeth Gaines. The Sheriff is the son of Colonel John Catlett and Elizabeth Underwood. Is the Elizabeth Taliaferro the daughter of Ranger John Taliaferro and Sarah Smith?
SECOND QUERY:
Will the real wife of immigrant ROBERT TALIAFERRO please step forward?
I have been corrected several times that she is Sarah Katherine Deadman, born 1628 in Igtham, Kent, England and died after 1672 in Essex county, Virginia. Is this the same person as SARAH GRYMES? Could we have a vote on her correct name?
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BETTY ANN SMIDDY (103107.3363@CompuServe.COM) corrects a point in last
week's distribution. Thanks for clearing this up.
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The reference in "The Taliferros in Virginia," Chapter III, is correct
without the '?' mark. Margaret Buckner did marry Robert Taliaferro; however
I don't know the names of her parents. I'm looking though.
RESPONSES
CAROL (74024.1350@CompuServe.COM) submitted the following information demonstrating the lineage of Benjamin Taliaferro of Amherst Co VA.
[Note: Carol's file is published exactly as I received it to illustrate how lineage data can be adapted to the AOL format. It's important to 'hug' the left margin insofar as possible and present information horizontally instead of in the traditional vertical presentation. The other point that will help in transmission is to avoid tabs and use a hard return only if a new line is intended. If a line has to be indented, use the space bar.]
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Information on Bartholomew, Francis, Robert & their birth, death,
marriage & spouses is from the parish records of the churches mentioned.
Other information is from Historic Georgia Families by Lewis Wiley Rigsby,
Virginia Magazine of History, Tyler's Monthly, William & Mary Quarterly,
original records from VA & GA. The name Benjamin is peculiar
to the Richard Taliaferro line. I also have further information on
Smiths, Berryman, Newton and several other collateral lines.
Barthololmew Taliaferro b.c. 1530 in Venice, Italy, bur 22 Sep 1601,
St. Olave's. m. Joane Lane 01 Jan 1583 at St. Michael's, Cornhill, London.
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Francis Taliaferro (b. c. 1589, christened 25 Jan 1589, buried 16 Aug
1647, all from St. Olave's, Hart Street, London. Francis m. Bennett
Haie 03 Feb 1613/14 in St. Saviour's, Southwark, Surrey, England
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Robert Taliaferro,the immigrant (b. 11 Nov 1626 in London, christened
19 Nov 1626 at St. Olave's, Hart Street, London. m. Sarah Grymes
(you also see her as Dedman). Sarah's mother remarried after the death
of her father and Sarah was adopted by Rev. Charles Grymes. She is
also show as Katherine, which was also her mother's name.
Probably called Sarah to differentiate.
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John Taliaferro m. Sarah Smith, dau. of Maj. Lawrence Smith
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Capt. Richard TALIAFERRO m Rose Berryman
I. Sarah Taliaferro (b. 7 June 1727) m. John Lewis
A. Robert Lewis
B. Taliaferro Lewis
C. John Lewis
D. Mildred McCoy Lewis
E. Charles Lewis
F. Jesse Lewis
G. Richard Lewis
H. Henry Lewis
II. Benjamin (1 Nov 1728 - c. 1751) died unmarried
III. Zachariah Taliaferro (29 Aug 1730 Va - Apr 1811 SC)
m. Mary
Boutwell
1749
A. Col. Benjamin Taliaferro
(1750 -- 3 Sep 1821) m.
(1st) Martha Meriwether
1. Louis Bourbon Taliaferro m. Betsey Johnson 10 Aug 1809
2. Elizabeth (Betsy) Taliaferro
3. Emily Taliaferro m. Isham Watkins
4. Benjamin Taliaferro m. Martha Watkins 15 Oct 1807
5. David Meriwether Taliaferro m. Mary Barnett
6. Thornton Taliaferro m. Mary Ann Christmas Green (my line
16 Jan 1816
7. Nicholas Taliaferro m. Ann Hill 08 Feb 1824
8. Martha Taliaferro
9. Margaret Boutwell Taliaferro m. Joseph Green 23 Mar 1820
10. Mary Taliaferro
(2nd) Eliza Cox
1. Zachariah Taliaferro
B. Zachariah Taliaferro
(28 Apr 1759 - 14 Apr 1831) m. Margaret
Chew Carter 1802
1. Sarah Ann Taliaferro (b. 02 Jun 1803) m. Dr. O. R.
Broyles
2. Lucy Hannah Taliaferro (b. 05 May 1805) m. Col. D. P.
Taylor
3. Mary Margaret Taliaferro (05 May 1808) m. Maj. R. F.
Simpson
4. Caroline Virginia Taliaferro (b. 05 Nov 1811) m. Dr. H.
C. Miller
C. Sallie (Sarah) Taliaferro
m. Daniel Harvie
1. Mary B. Harvie m. Presley Gilmer
2. Martha Harvie m. Thompson Gilmer
D. Richard Taliaferro move
to Georgia & never married
E. Warren Taliaferro m.
Mary M. Gilmer
1. Nancy Taliaferro m. Thomas Rainey
2. Charles Boutwell Taliaferro m. Mildred Meriwether
3. Sophia Taliaferro m. James Meriwether
4. Polly (Mary) m. -------- Landrum
F. Burton Taliaferro m.
(1st) Sallie Gilmer, (2nd) Lucy Carter
G. Nancy Taliaferro M. Thompson
Watkins
H. Frances Taliaferro m.
Moses Penn
IV. Richard Taliaferro (15 Feb 1731 - 26 Feb 1731
V. Dr. John Taliaferro
VI. Col Charles Taliaferro (b. 17 Jul 1735) m. Isabelle
McCullough
(moved to Amhearst Co. Va. 1758)
A. Richard Taliaferro (23
May 1759 - 1806) m. Mildred Powell
1. William Taliaferro
2. Rebecca Taliaferro m. (1st) ----- Brown (2nd) -----Black
3. Elizabeth Edwards Taliaferro m. John Pilcher
4. Benjamin Taliaferro m. Rhoda Carter
5. John Taliaferro m. Clementine McKinstry
6. Dr. Roderick Taliaferro m. Nancy Bell
7. Isabella Taliaferro, died young
8. Emily Taliaferro m. Wesley Terry
9. Dr. James Powell Taliaferro, never married.
B. Charles Taliaferro (b.
29 Mar 1761) m. Lucy Loving
C. Peter Taliaferro (04
Mar 1763 - 4 Jul 1785), never married.
D. John Taliaferro (04 May
1765 - 24 Nov 1809) m. Elizabeth Loving
E. Zachariah Taliaferro
(03 Sep 1767 - 12 Sep 1823) m. Sallie Warnuck
F. Benjamin Franklin Taliaferro
(b. 09 Jun 1770) m. Mildred Franklin
of Amhearst****
G. William Taliaferro (16
Mar 1772 - 1805)
H. Sarah Beheathland Taliaferro
(16 Aug 1774 - 1844 KY) m. William
Loving
I. Roderick Taliaferro (b.
16 May 1777) m. ----- Price
J. James Taliaferro (b.
12 Apr 1779) m. (1st) Lucy Rice (2nd)
Susan Brockman
K. Rose Berryman Taliaferro
(02 Jan 1783) m. Josephus Loving
VII. Beheathland Taliaferro (b. 20 Aug 1738)
VIII. Peter Taliaferro (b. 12 Feb 1740) m. Anne Hackley
IX. Elizabeth Taliaferro (twin, b. 02 Nov 1741) m. Zach
Hawkins
X. Rose Taliaferro (twin, b. 02 Nov 1741)
XI. Mary B. Taliaferro (b. 06 Oct 1743) m. ------ Wortham
XII. Francis Taliaferro (b. 09 Dec 1745)
XIII. Richard Taliaferro (b. 02 Sep 1747)
TALIAFERROS OF EUROPE
What of the neighborhood of our London Taliaferros? Bartholomew Taliaferro lived on Harte Street after his marriage. He and many of his children were buried from the parish church, St. Olave's on Harte Street, and his wife's family (if she was Joane Layner) also lived on Harte Street. Here, then, is a description of the neighborhood of Harte Street as it was when Taliaferros lived there. This is a semi-edited presentation, much of the spelling and punctuation are retained so take a deep breath before you start to read.
Source: "A Survey of London." John Stow. Reprinted from the Text of 1603. 1971. P. 130-132.
Now therefore to beginne at the East of the street [Tower Street], on the North side thereof is the fayre parish Church call Alhallowes Barking, which standeth in a large, but sometime farre larger, cemitory or Churchyearde. On the north side whereof was sometime builded a fayre Chappel, founded by king Richard the first, some have written that his heart was buried under the high Altar: this chappell was confirmed and augmented by King Edward the I. Edward the fourth gaue license to his cosen John Earle of Worcester, to found there a Brotherhoode for a Maister and Brethren. . . . .King Richard the third new builded and founded therein a colledge of Priestes, &c. Hamond de Lega was buried in that chapple, Robert Tate Mayor of London, 1488, and others were there buried. This colledge was suppressed and pulled downe in the yeare 1548. The second of King Edward the sixt, the ground was imployed as a Garden plot, during the raigns of King Edward, Queene Mary, and parte of Queene Elisabeth, till at length a large strong frame of Timber and bricke was set thereon, and imployed as a store house of Marchantes goodes brought from the sea by Sir William Winter, &c. . . .
By the West end of this Parrish church and chappell, lyeth Sydon lane, now corruptly called Sything lane, from Towerstreet up North to Hart streete. In this Sidon lane diuers fayre and large houses are builded namely one by Sir John Allen, sometime Mayor of London, and of counsell unto King Henry the eight: Sir Frances Walsingham Knight, Principal Secretary to the Queenes Majestie that now is, was lodged there, and so was the Earle of Essex, &c.
At the North West corner of this land, standeth a proper parrish Church of Saint Olaue, which Church together with some houses adjoyning, and also others ouer against it in Harstreete, are of the said Tower streete Warde. Monumentes in this parrish Church of Saint Olaue bee these: Richard Cely, and Robert Cely Felmongers, principall builders and benefactors of this Church: Dame Johan, wife to Sir John Zouch, 1439. John Clarentiaulx King of Armes, 1427. Thomas Sawle, Sir Richard Haddon Mercer, Mayor 1512. Thomas Burnell Mercer, 1548. Thomas Morley Gentleman, 1566, Sir John Radcliffe Knight, 1568. And Dame Anne his wife, 1585. Chapone a Florentine Gentleman, 1582. Sir Hamond Vaughan Knight, George Stoddard Marchant, &c
Then have yee out of Towerstreet, also on the North side, one other
lane, called Marte lane, which runneth up towardes the North, and is for
the most parte of this Towerstreet warde, which lane is about the thirde
quarter thereof deuided, from Aldgate ward, by a chaine to bee drawn thwart
the said lane aboue the west ende of Harte street.
COLONIAL TALLIAFERROS
Charles Taliaferro was a resident of Caroline County VA. His home,
"Cherry Grove," was situated on the Golden Vale Creek, now encompassed
within A. P. Hill Military Reservation. This presentation is an example
of the detail that can be found in one of Virginia's 'burned counties.'
The primary source searched was the Caroline County Personal Property Tax
Lists, augmented by the records of Liberty Baptist Church, and the Caroline
County Court Orders that remain intact. The lineage is estimated
as well as possible, given the loss of deeds and wills in Caroline County
and the proliferation of
Taliaferros named John and William in this demographic area.
CHARLES TALIAFERRO (c1780-1843) OF CAROLINE COUNTY, VIRGINIA
[Probable Lineage: William Taliaferro, Sr.-5 > John Taliaferro-4 > Robert Taliaferro -3 > Robert Taliaferro-2 > Robert Taliaferro-1 > Francis Taliaferro of Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England > Bartholomew Taliaferro of Harte Street, London, England]
Charles Taliaferro was born in 1780/81, the second son of William Taliaferro, Sr. In 1808 or 1809, at the approximate age of 27, Charles Taliaferro appears to have assumed responsibility for the management of his father's property as he is shown as liable for taxes on property which had been his father's in previous years.
In the year 1811, Charles Taliaferro was not residing in Caroline County and the property was again listed under his father's name. Since he married Susannah Moxley in 1812 in Westmoreland Co VA, the assumption is that he was living in Westmoreland during the absent years in Caroline.
After marriage, Charles and Susannah Taliaferro established their home in Caroline County, and in 1813, he was tithed in Caroline County for himself, 5 tithable slaves and 4 horses. On 13 January 1817, Charles Taliaferro purchased their new property of 585 acres in Caroline County from Reuben Tankersley of Richmond (city). The sequence of tax records make it clear that his home was near the property owned by his father, William Taliaferro, Sr. Later records describe it as being adjacent to Reuben T. Taylor. Charles and Susannah Taliaferro named their home "Cherry Grove." It sat on a bluff which rose above the east bank of the Golden Vale Creek.
In 1833 Charles Taliaferro "and others" are designated Trustees for Liberty Meeting House, a Baptist church. The first Liberty Church (Anglican) stood on Taliaferro's Mount, 10 miles north of the site of the Liberty Meeting House (Baptist) next to Golden Vale Creek. Charles Taliaferro was Trustee at the old church and his son, William A. Taliaferro, was active in the erection of the second Liberty Church after the old Taliaferro's Mount Anglican church was abandoned following the Revolutionary War.
In 1844, the tax records describe 485 acres owned by the estate of Charles
Taliaferro. Adjacent to it is 100 acres owned by his son, William
A. Taliaferro. In 1846, 485 acres of the "Cherry Grove" plantation
have been transferred to Susannah Taliaferro, widow. Susannah Moxley
Taliaferro appears to have died by 13 April 1846 when Robert H. Taliaferro
of Alabama sold his 85 acres to William A. Taliaferro for $425.25, "which
land having fallen to him in the division of the tract which formerly belonged
to Charles
Taliaferro, deceased."
RESEARCH
Below are abstracts of three deeds which delineate the site of Taliaferro's Mount in Caroline County, Virginia. Taliaferro's Mount is a high premonitory rising sharply above a deep bend on the south side of the Rappahannock River. The "gut" mentioned below is a reference to Mount Creek which flows into the Rappahannock on the east side of Taliaferro's Mount. A narrow paved road winds its way up the rising ground from Highway #17 to the top of The Mount.
In the days before the white man came and claimed this land, Taliaferro's Mount was a lookout base for the Indian population. Long after the end of native and immigrant warfare, Taliaferro's Mount continued in its role of lookout base, whether the enemy was John Pneumensen, a pirate, or British warships during the Revolution and War of 1812, or in the 1860s when Caroline residents gathered there to gaze in awe upon the thunderous bombardment of Fredericksburg 25 miles upstream.
In the second deed, there is a reference to the Grimes plantation. This was land belonging to the Reverend Charles Grimes, step-father of Katherine Taliaferro. He was Rector of an Anglican parish on the south side of the York river in his early Virginia years, and moved later to a parish in present Middlesex County VA. He had no official responsibility after he moved to the Taliaferro's Mount area, but - given the shortage of priests in the area - he probably continiued to perform such sacraments as baptism and marriage. It is believed that the Taliaferros moved to The Mount before the death of Robert Taliaferro-1, but this has never been confirmed. In the cellar of an older house presently standing on Taliaferro's Mount, the outlines of a much earlier structure are visible. The house and land were purchased in 1985 by a new owner who planned extensive renovations and archeological research of the property and structures. The drive leading from the paved road to the house set in its grove of oak trees, is dug deep into the earth, four or five feet, from centuries of use. A little distance from the old house stands a grove of cedars with periwinkle lacing the the ground. Surely this was once the site where Taliaferros were laid for their final rest. Local Taliaferros relate that the gravestone of one early Taliaferro, reputedly Francis Taliaferro, was used for years as a stepping stone at the back door of the house.
When Robert Taliaferro-1 acquired Taliaferro's Mount, Indian incursions in this frontier area of Virginia were not infrequent. Shortly before Bacon's Rebellion in 1676, a fort was built at Port Royal, a few miles downstream from Taliaferro's Mount. When danger threatened, residents gathered within the palisades of the fort. It was at or near this fort that Col. John Catlett is reported to have been killed during an Indian raid in 1670. Tradition holds that Robert Taliaferro-1 lost his life as a result of injuries sustained while repelling this Indian attack. Whether or not that is true, it is certain that he was deceased before 25 November 1671 when orders of the General Court of Virginia were given to safeguard the estate for use of the orphans.
Robert Taliaferro would have been 45 years old on November 11, 1671.
The deeds below were executed by Robert Taliaferro-2. The patent referenced in the deeds below indicates that it was not issued until 1673, after the death of Robert Taliaferro, but earlier patents identify him as the owner of this property in 1667.
ESSEX COUNTY DEED BOOK 13, Page 428: 9 August 1711 Conveyance of Robert Taliaferro to Samuel Short. 40 pounds sterling. Tract of 100 acres, part of land formerly granted to Robert Taliaferro, deceased, father of Robert Taliaferro, containing 739 acres by patent of 17 March 1673 which is bounded as follows: a marked cedar tree by the riverside near mouth of a gut next above plantation where Samuel Short lives, running up gut E 110 poles to large birch close to the stream, N 14 degrees, E 127 poles to large oak standing in sight of plantation called Short's Quarters, N 69 degrees, W 68 poles to oak standing by pocosin or sunken land, through pocosin to river, then up river to place it began. Includes all houses, outhouses. Dower release by Margaret Buckner recorded.
ESSEX COUNTY DEED BOOK 16, PAGE 246: 3 SEPTEMBER 1719 Conveyance of Robert Taliaferro to Samuel Short. 14 pounds. Tract of 25 acres, part of land granted to Robert Taliaferro, dcd, father of Robert Taliaferro, containing 739 acres by patent of 17 March 1673. Beginning at a cedar tree by the river near mouth of a gutt (beginning at the point where previously sold land began) the up said gutt to the fork, up the fork next the plantation to the of Grimes, then SW by Grimes to land of Corbin, then down several courses of Corbins's to the river, then down river to the beginning, including all houses, outhouses.
ESSEX COUNTY DEED BOOK 18, Page 218: 20 April 1726 Robert Taliaferro
to Richard Buckner. 600 pounds. Tract whereon said Taliaferro
lives normally called the Church Neck, being 600 acres, the remainder of
a patent of 739 acres to Robert Taliaferro, son of Robert Taliaferro, now
deceased, the other part sold to Samuel Short; includes all houses, outhouses.
Dower release by Ann Taliaferro.
MISCELLANY
Anyone searching for their family's history eventually succumbs to trying to use the sequence of given names in a family as a search tool; and it is a valid tool as described in this article submitted by Millicent Craig. Sometimes, the only way an ancestor (especially a female) can be confirmed in one of Virginia's burned counties is to link them to their parent by applying a traditional naming pattern.
Millicent V. Craig, the author of this article, is the North American
Secretary of the Dalton Genealogical Society. Many of our VA/NC families
may also have a Dalton line. Millicent is the American representative
of the English Dalton Journal. The annual fee is small and Daltons
will find it to be an interesting addition to their family history.
Millicent can be contacted by email at:
< Millicenty@aol.com >
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IMPORTANCE OF GIVEN NAMES sent by Millicent Craig <
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Names can be quite helpful in recognizing ancestors. It was a practice in many countries to honor their relatives by naming their children after them. This was a very common practice in England and given names were carried down from generation to generation. Each major Dalton line had its own set of names. In Lancashire County, England, the predominant Dalton given names were: William, Robert, Thomas, James, John, Richard, Edward for the males; and Mary, Ellen, Jane, Margaret, Ann, Elizabeth, Sarah for the female offspring.
Quite frequently, the hierarchical system for naming was observed. The first-born male was named after the paternal grandfather and the first-born female was named after the maternal grandmother. The second-born male was named after the maternal grandfather and the second-born female was named after the paternal grandmother. The remaining children were named after uncles and aunts, often according to age. This knowledge can be helpful in going backwards to identify family members, especially grandparents.
In the case of a child born out of wedlock, this pattern was not usually observed. It was also not uncommon for a couple to have one or two children before they married and the pattern was not observed in these cases either. They were generally named after maternal aunts or uncles who were lower in the hierarchy. And incidentally these children, especially if they were females, often did not assume the surname of their father but carried their mother's maiden name throughout their lives. Sons were more likely to receive their father's surname. Children born after the marriage, generally were named in the hierarchical order.
When a given name occurs that is quite unusual, this name can be very
helpful, especially in trying to isolate families from the baptismal records
or from the English Censuses where Dalton families all carry the same names.
If is had not been for the odd name of "Herbert," my search would
have been much more difficult than it was.
Millicent V. Craig, No. Am. Secretary, Dalton Genealogical Society
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TALIAFERRO TIMES: Compiled from email and other sources
Distributed by Joyce Browning
cJBrown7169@AOL.com
4 December 1996