SALUTATIONS

Oops.  I'll have to adjust to this every other week thing.  My mental clock told me I sent out TT last week, so I didn't even look.  In the future I will.  I apologize for letting Wednesday, 25 Feb, pass by without TT. By the way, instead of the 147 Talliaferros whom I contacted a few weeks ago, there are now 201 of us!   Way to go Taliaferrros  -  you really got the wheels turning and the old wagon moving.  All you new folks  -  please introduce yourselves.  That's how you and everyone else reaps the greatest benefit from our joint effort.  It really is a joint effort.  I'm merely the catalyst (and cut and paster). - - - - - - - - - - - -
LAURIE McKENNA ( McKenna7@ix.netcom.com) sends notice that will assist many of our TT Catletts.  Thanks so much, Laurie, for sending this information.

*****Here's a web page that has Catlett information and might be of interest to TT readers.
               <<     http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/karon_bosze/   >>>

Karen Bosze has a terrific personal page and she seems very knowledgeable on VA genealogy.  (Maybe I'm behind the times and you know all about her?)  She answered my query about VA land grants to Striblings, and said she had found many references to Taliaferro and Stribling in her research on her Catlett line.  Since it's tax time, she's very busy, but I'm going to contact her again in a couple of months to see if she can give me more information.

NEW MEMBERS

MARILYN HOPKINS (mhopkins@fuse.net)

*****My husband is a descendant of 1) Robert Taliaferro's child, 2) John Taliaferro, "The Ranger" and Sarah Smith. 3) John Taliaferro, "of Snow  Creek", and Mary Catlett. 4) William Taliaferro and Mary Battaile. 5)  Nicholas Taliaferro "of Totter-down-Hill" and his 2nd wife Francis Blassingame. 6) Nicholas Taliaferro born August 4, 1806 and died Nov 6 1867 in Bracken Co. Kentucky and Elizabeth Kelsey 7) William Alonzo Taliaferro and Elizabeth Pinckard. 8) Carroll Dwire Asbury and Mattie Ruth Pinckard Taliaffero 9) William Taylor Asbury and Lucia Reynolds 10) Everett L. Hopkins, Sr. and Carol Dwire Asbury 11) Everett L.
Hopkins, Jr. (This is my husband) and Marilyn Anita Armstrong.

Would like to receive any correspondence on this family.

[JB Note: I may have told you folks about this before, but in honor of our enlarged subscribership . . .   Years and years a   !go when I lived near Richmond VA and could dash over often, I spent a day delving into Taliaferro collections at the Virginia Historical Society Museum.  As of this date, I remember only one thing from that trip, but it may be one of the best mind adjusters I ever found to help visualize the landscape of our ancestors.  It literally sings with evidence of the importance of their waterways.  Among these files I found a very old envelope (ca 1840) addressed in the following manner:

Nicholas Taliaferro
Tottem Down Hill
Rappahannock River

It's hard to comprehend addresses that were ever this simple and  descriptive . . . hard to believe, in these days of multiple sets of numbers, that a person was ever so precisely of our of  gr. grandparents, rivers were a vital part of a family's identity.
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WILMA MANGIONE (watm1@juno.com) managed to snare another Italian name to go with her Taliaferro heritage.  I think she's a first in our group.  Welcome Taliaferro-Mangione.  We're looking forward to more information about this family.

****Thank you for your prompt reply to my initial enquiry.  I am a retired environmental planner and am enjoying fox hunting once again now that I have leisure time.  Actually, I enjoy tearing around the countryside and in over 20 years have never seen a "kill" (which I would not enjoy).  I have been interested in my Taliaferro family history for years but have left most of the research to my brother John.  My DAR ancestor is John Taliaferro of North Carolina and I have MacKenzie connections there in Allegheny County.  The wealth of information on the Taliaferros in Virginia is staggering and I am somewhat daunted by it!
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   jPATTIJE MILLS STYERS (Patije@cheerful.com) gets a special welcome from me.  Maybe she's a cousin  twice over, who knows?

****My name is Patije (Weber) Mills Styers.  Patije is a contraction of my first and second name and rhymes with "attache' or Chevrolet".  My maiden name is  Weber but I was Mills for so long that I just sort of started using it and was afraid I'd lose too many "cousins" if I suddenly used Weber.  Then I remarried a couple years ago but no body knows me as Styers...so I remain
Patije Mills--unless I'm working on Styers family, then I add it to my name.  I do not have a web page yet but you can see my McClanahan lineage on the McCLANAHAN TIMES "staff" page at:
 
<<     http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/3895/mcline_patije.html    >>

Perhaps I will be a great disappointment to you Taliaferro researchers.  You see, I'm trying to put som   će finishing touches to my McClanahan tree and lots of McClanahans married people named Taliaferro and if I can find them maybe I can find the rest of my McClanahans! ;-)

Anyway here are the marriages I have which I'd like more information about:

1.  Sarah Smith  married John Taliaferro (no dates or places known) Sarah & John had a daughter, Sarah Taliaferro b 1728 Caroline Co, VA, d 1760 and married Dec 1746 in Caroline co, VA to Anthony Thornton IV who was b Nov 1727 in Caroline Co, VA and d 1782 in VA

2.  Lawrence Taliaferro married Sarah Thornton who was b 1680 in Gloucester Co, VA

3.  Mary Taliaferro married Francis Thornton who was b 1681 Caroline Co, VA and died 1749 in Spotsylvania, VA

4.  Sarah Taliaferro  b abt 1762 married Daniel Harvie

5.  Oma Oguetia Taliaferro b 1925 in ARK married Joseph C. Niles 1966 in TX

Not much to start with but hoping to spot something to help.  BTW  if the people reading this have Any McClanahan (any spelling from lanaghan to macClenathočn) marriages in their trees no matter who they are married to, I'd love to have the info!  If it is a direct ancestor of someone, I just may help them complete their McClanahan ancestry back to the immigrant...or at least try awfully hard to do so. ;-)  that is a wink not a black eye! [grin]

I live in Sarasota, FL, took up genealogy when MS took me out of the mainstream of life, leaving me at home with the end of a lifetime career--'cause my employer didn't want me anymore. (that was back in 1971).  My aunts (paternal and maternal) were doing genealogy and thought (around 1987 when they heard I had a computer and no kids at home anymore) it would "keep me busy" if I put it all on computer for them  -- and I got HOOKED by genealogy.  (Caught that virus!!!)  I have some surnames of my husband's family back to  1200 England and France.  I have my McClanahans and Claytons back to immigration in 1600's. Of course I got a jump start with the collections of my aunts!  (I really don't understand and how anybody did this without a computer--or for that matter hold a full time job, raise a family, go to school or ANYTHING AND do genealogy!!! I must do MOST of my genealogy from here now, but am so delighted to help others where I can with what I have here.  Sometimes when I THINK I'm helping I discover later that it was considered being nosy--so let me know if i get too involved in your genealogy business. {LOL}

I'm working on many many surnames  (all related to me or one of my close relatives) which I'll list with my signature but you have my permission to cut if it is too long!  [grin]

Just think how many names all of us will have by the time we have gone back 30 generations with all of our surnames (which double with each generation)  2 parents, 4 gr-parents, 8 gr-grandparents, 16,32,64,128, 256, 512, 1024, in just 10 generations!!!  Now multiply that with a possible 10 kids for every family of generations back down to the 20th century and we each have a potential of a mill   ˇion living cousins!!!  I'd like to find as many of those living cousins as I can!  Consequently, I work with siblings of all my ancestors and try to trace their descendants as well as our mutual ancestors!   but then, my kids are grown with families of their own and I no longer hold a job--so this is my hobby, vocation, excitement and sometimes the sole reason I will myself out of bed on some days! [grin] and I don't try too hard to get physical PROOF (in my file) for anything but my direct ancestors! But with those I am a real stickler for proof!!!  Aren't you?

When I post my info to my genealogy database, I include every tidbit of info i can find - including hobbies, favorite things, parties, celebrations, trips, etc. that made the newspaper, birth order, cause of death, any major illnesses if known, family rumors and stories, (as well as bios from as many people as I can find to write them! organizations, memberships, schools attende   äd, EVERYTHING  and I found a genealogy software which allows me to add as many "facts/events" as I want and source and note each one of them individually or generally!  Whew! So you can see that I am thorough where I can be thorough!

Can't think of much else to chatter about so figure this is enough from me. Hope every single one of you can find a way to add yourselves to my database and then I can help you too!!!

[JB Note:  Information from MOORE NEWS, another hat I wear, probably does nothing at all for the McClanahans of the world  -  it's comes too late; but it may repaint some of the landscapes shared by Taliaferros and McClanahans.  Richard Taliaferro who married Rose Berryman would probably have known the McClanahans in this record.  Most of the family of Garland Moore was in Jefferson County VA (WV) by 1820.

Source:  Wills of Westmoreland County, Virginia1654-1800.  Augusta B. Fothergill.  1926.

**Will of William McClanahan dated 15 Sep 1760.  Pro. 29 Oct 1771.   Wif   (e Martha; son-in-law Garland Moore land in Richmond Co; to grandchildren Robert, Garland, Peter, McClanahan, and Martha Moore amount from sale of land in Richmond Co at death of wife; to sons Thomas, Peter, William, James, and John McClanahan.**

We have +also located a Garland-Moore-Cobb family in Norfolk England which bears promise of being the origin family of the Garland-Moore-Cobb families of in the lower James River a century before William McClanahan wrote his will in 1771.

**Will of Edward More
Norwich Arcdeaconry 1604/5/290
24 Jun 1605.  Proved:  8 Feb 1606 by Robert Edwards of Wiggenhall St. Jermyns
[Note:  Wiggenhall is on the River Ouse about 15 miles south of Kings Lynn, Norfolk)

Edward More of Wiggenhall St. Jermyns, Norfolk.  To the three children of John Garland, John Garland,    "Elizabeth Garland, and Thomas Garland, 12d each.  To my daughter-in-law Joane Garland 12/-.  To Robert Edwards my grey filly.  To my wife, Elizabeth More, one half of all the wheat and rye growing and one-third of all my household stuff and 3P.6.8 owed by Robert Brice upon bond.  My wife to have the use of my house and 4 acres of land for her life.  Residue to son, Robert More, whom I appoint Executor.  If he does not return home, then to my cousins, RRichard Cobb of Cotham and Thomas Cobb of Southlenton, Nottinghamshire" which two kinsmen live within two miles or thereabouts of Little Brought Ferry in the county of Nottingham."  Supervisor:  Robert Edwards of Wiggenhall St. Jermyns, and he to act as executor in the absence of my son.  Witnesses:  Richard Smyth, Thomas Raynes, John Garland.**]

QUERIES

HERMAN WHITE (hermlouwhite@juno.com) is looking for some help.  Hope someone can instruct us all abo   Äut the interesting question he raises.

****In TT,  Volume 2,  Issue 15, Part 1, dated 26 November 1997, page 1, it was stated that Sarah Smith who married John Taliaferro ca 1682 was the daughter Lawrence Smith & Mary Debnam. Other sources stated that Mary Hitchens married John. Any documentation or sources to prove which one is correct?

[JB Note:  I wasn't aware that John Taliaferro, The Ranger, married a cousin.  If Sarah Smith was the daughter of Mary Debnam, then was she also the niece of John Taliaferro's Mother, Catherine Debnam?  Not that marriage between cousins was unusual  -  in fact the very opposite was often the case.  Even today, I'm often struck by the surnames of wives and their husbands. I usually notice it among women because we have both a maiden name and a married name; and I always wonder if they know that those two surnames were marring each other 300 years ago!]
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GLENNA KINARD (gkinard@aol.com)***Can anyone help me with this family? I know very little about it.

Mary Martin Taliaferro (do not know her parents).....5th g grandmother.....m. John Mauldin. He (they?) died in Pendleton District, S. C. Their son was born in 1774 in NC, but I do not know their dates.
 
RESEARCH

All of us appreciate the effort others are making to enhance our knowledge about the Taliaferro family.  Thanks so much to each of you for these contributions and those that have arrived for use in later issues.

BETTY A. SMIDDY (103107.3363@compuserve.com) ***Here is an article from the Cincinnati Enquirer, Jan. 30, 1998

Dan Beard's historic home for sale by Gregory A. Hall, The Cincinnati Enquirer

COVINGTON-The price of history is $450,000.  For that sum, one of two national historic landmarks in Northern Kentucky can be purchased.  Lawyer Phil Taliaferro and his wife, Covington school board member Diana Taliaferro, are selling their Third Street home, the boyhood residence of Boy Scouts founder Daniel Carter Beard.

Ironically, the reason they'll be moving from the Scout founder's home to Mr. Taliaferro's boyhood home in Erlanger revolves around their 6-year-old son Philip.

"There are no longer any kids in this neighborhood," Mrs. Taliaferro said. "...That's just a product of this becoming a double-income, no-kid neighborhood.  Leaving won't be easy. You know that as long as you're taking your family with you, you'll be OK," she said. "But our hearts are in here."

They were married there. Her son Brian lived in Mr. Beard's room - and became an Eagle Scout while doing so. Mr. Beard's grandson, Al Beard of Oregon visited there two years ago. He said it felt more like a museum that a house.

The other Northern Kentucky landmark is the John A. Roebling Suspension Bridge, which Kentucky probably isn't willing to sell.

"You have to have nationwide significance to be a national historic landmark," said Marty Perry, the National Register program coordinator for the Kentucky Heritage Council. The standard for buildings on the National Register of Historic Places is of local importance.

The house was built in 1821 in a Federal style and was remodeled during the Civil War.

Mr. Beard was born in Cincinnati in 1850 and moved to Covington as a boy. He organized a forerunner of the Boy Scouts of America and is generally credited as the group's founder. He was a charter member of the BSA's executive committee and national Scout commissioner for 30 years. He died in 1941.

The house had broken windows and holes n the walls when Mr. Taliaferro bought it in 1983.

"It was a shell," Mr. Taliaferro said. "It was a mostly ugly shell."  The Taliaferros expect the house will sell. From one side, the Licking River is within eyeshot. From the other sides, downtown Cincinnati and Covington-both of which have major construction projects in the works-are visible.

"There is so much happening around here in the next two years that property values in the Licking Riverside area will begin to rise dramatically," he said. Then they'll move to the house on Graves Avenue in Erlanger, a block from their church.

They're not sure whether the Covington house's next occupant will make as much of the history as they have, Mrs. Taliaferro said.  "I hope that they feel the love we've put into it."
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THE PHANTOM (VLTP@aol.com)  Many thanks to our Phantom for the below contributions.
 
***King George Will Book 1853-4 page 83
I, John Taliaferro of Hagley, in the county of King George, do make and subscribe this writing, as and for my last will, and testament, so to be considered without regard to form.  I leave to my son-in-law, James G. Taliaferro, Jun . all the estate real personal or mixed, of which I may be possessed or to  which I may in any manner be entitled, at the time of my death-interest-and to be applied by him to the following uses, and purposes-First, he is, out of my estate to be disposed of for that purpose at his discretion to pay all my debts.  Secondly, he is, after the payment of my debts, to devote the residue of my estate, in such manner as he may deem most beneficial, to the use of my beloved daughter E.A.S. Taliaferro, his wife, and her children.  And at her death, whatever may remain of my estate in the hands of the said James G. Taliaferro Jr. or his Executor Adm. or Assign, shall be equally divided amongst the children of my daughter aforesaid.  My body, if not attended with too much trouble, I desire to be placed beside my beloved wife.  My immortal  spirit may, I trust, go thro' the merits of my blessed Lord & Saviour, Jesus Christ, to my merciful father in Heaven, who gave it existance.  I ask my son-in-law to execute the above trusts- and in the performance of it, my desire is that no security shall be required of him, by the court, or by any other person.   In testimony that this is my will, I subscribe my name & affix my seal the 8th day of November in the year 1836. John Taliaferro   LS Mem: It is not because I have less affection for the children of my beloved son that I leave to them no part of my estate.  It is because my means are inconsiderable and absolutely necessary to the comfort of my beloved daughter and her children, to whom it has never been in my power to give anything, in comparison to which I gave to my son at and after his marriage.  This, my last and only will, was written and signed by myself on the day mentioned in it as witness my signature.
                                                 John Taliaferro
 

IN KING GEORGE COUNTY COURT SEPTEMBER 1st, 1853
The foregoing writing, with a memorandum thereon endorsed purporting to be the last will & testament of John Taliaferro dec'd, was this day produced in Court and it appearing to the satisfaction of the Court by the oaths of W. R. Maden & Charles G. Jones, that the same are wholly in the handwriting of the said deceased, the said writing & memorandum thereon, was ordered to be recorded a   -s the last will and testament of the said John Taliaferro.
                                       Teste     Wm. Brown, clerk

John Taliaferro 1768-1853 m 3/25/1794 Lucy Thornton Hooe 1778-1832 d/o Seymour Hooe and Sarah Alexander.  Elizabeth Ann Seymour (EAS) Taliaferro m 1. 6/12/1824 John A. Burd 1784-1827 -2. 5/29/1828 James Garnett Taliaferro, Jr. s/o James G. Taliaferro and Wilhelmilna Wishart.  James Jr. m 1. 1820 Mary Aylette Brent d/o Daniel

MISCELLANY

The article below concerns a very ancient cabin in Rockingham County NC which was built by a Taliaferro-related family who moved there from Patrick Co VA.  The text was excerpted from The Messenger, a Rockingham County newspaper.  The little cottage described here probably represents the first real home that many of our migrating families lived in  -  well, that is probably not true.

Did you ever wonder, as I have, where they lived while a more substantial shelter was under construction?  Whether they arrived at their destination in 1607 or 1807, they arrived after a long and difficult journey; and their destination had no apartments, hotels or boarding houses, only a stream of some sort and virgin forest, and if they were lucky, an Indian old field ready for cultivation.  If there were prior settlers near by, they didn’t live in the lovely old homes that now dot the south for they were also pioneering families.  Think about it  -  where would you spend the night, or go to get out of the rain while shelter was being constructed.  It’s not the most pleasant visualization as we contemplate our ancestors.  We  don’t see them as bereft of any of the comforts we believe they possessed, or without the lovely, verandad homes they would later build.  Iove heard that if there was a hill nearby, they would carve out a cave that the family called ‘home’ while the trees were being downed and prepared for the structure that was to be built.  Or, if there were no hills, they built a leanto against a large tree, and wove grasses into a thatched roof, much as their European ancestors did.  Think about it.  Imagine that you are in a wilderness forest.  What would you do?  Boy, do I admire their grit!

July 21, 1982
SCENES ALONG THE MAYO RIVER
By Lucy Berry

GOINSTOWN - Zelma Scott and her husband George of Stoneville have been involved in a delicate restoration project - delicate, because the house being restored is a landmark of family history built in the late 1700's. The primitive log cabin has two chimneys - a veritable mansion house in pioneer days.

According to the oldest deed, the land dates back to David Hanby in 1779 who bought 100 acres. However when Walker Joyce bought the property from James A. Glenn back in 1892 he purchased a 149 acre tract, more or less.  Walker Joyce married the sister to Zelma's great grandmother. Sisters in one family married a father and son of another. Zelma's father and mother were. fourth or fifth cousins.  Family history along the Mayo is mind-boggling. Zelma received considerable help from local genealogist Linda Vernon, who helped set names and dates straight.

In many instances it seems that everyone below Anglin's Mill along the Mayo towards Stoneville is interrelated, more or less.  However Zelma's husband, is George Scott, a refinisher of antiques, boasts he is descended from the Jesse James outlaws.

Zelma inherited the cabin from her father, William Bryant Joyce, who was born in 1896, along with 50 acres of land almost a year ago.  She and George have always wanted to restore the house, earlier, before it began to tilt and erode.

I've got a feeling that part of this estate goes back to the early Hanby Ford," Zelma said. Hanby Ford was one of the earliest crossings used by settlers going from Ayersville across the Mayo to its eastern shore, where Jack Smith, alias "Horsetrader Jack" or "One-Eyed Jack" had a sawmill and store until the 1930's.

An old deed describes a line coming across Hanby's Road across Means Creek and out by J.H. Harris' comer.  We traced the old sunken roadbeds, swollen in some places where rain had washed two parallel paths and left the earth uplifted in between. The road led down to the Mayo, probably at the sight of the original ford crossing.

The land by the river is called the Walker Joyce bottoms or "big bottoms" by those who have farmed it. Beans, watermelon, cucumbers and tomatoes, occasionally their tender tops nibbled by deer, still flourish there, cared for by the Scotts.  For a long time there was one spot on the bottoms where nothing could be grown. Here pieces of Indian pottery continue to resurface, after a spring freshet or plowing.  Some believe an Indian cook fire was on the site, where a fire burned day and night, baking the surrounding oven-mound into a hard, barren wasteland.

At one time a blacksmith's shop sat near the cabin, where travelers' horses were reshod and building tools, like nails, were purchased.

Square nails and wooden pegs hold the log cabin together, as well as the ingenious placement of the hand-hewn pine logs, knotched and grooved to fit tight.  White clay cements the cracks between logs and rocks in the chimney.  Weathered chestnut logs make up the granary near the cabin, which some local historians think dates back to 1803, and even earlier.

When the Scotts began cleaning the cabin a year ago last summer, they peeled away seven years of wallpaper, and found old newspapers plugged into the walls.  There are tickets from furriers in St. Louis where the Joyce family would trade their furs for a top price.  In 1919 poplin, taffeta, and voile waist blouses sold for 98 cents. One crepe de chine was more expensive - $2.98 . Gingham dresses for children and bustles f or women were in vogue then.

A 1907 Tennessee newspaper, The Farrier Weekly, is chock full of read-them-while- they're-hot headlines. "Bride on Honeymoon Shoots Polar Bears" tells of a Mrs. Max Fleishmann's Artic sojourn when she and her husband killed 30, reindeer, 1 seals and 28 polar bears, catching two polar bears alive.  Another ad warned "how nerves become unstrung in women who habitually drink coffee."  But more striking is one article of speculation. "There is growing belief," it reads, "that William H. Taft will get the Republican nomination for president." In 1909 Taft became the 27th president of the United States.  Twenty-five cents paid for a year's newspaper subscription.

The cabin fireplace is made out of homemade brick, cut in varying lengths, and of soft, pastel shades.  A fireplace where slaves prepared their meals is in the cellar, which later was used to store tobacco before taking it to market.  The tobacco was sold at Glenn's Warehouse in Stoneville, according' to old receipts found in the house.

The tour to the attic room is especially exciting for Zelma. "Well, what do you think that is?" she inquires, pointing to a small passage cut out of a partition wall.  Zelma's father told her that his family stored fruit jars there so the heat from the kitchen below would rise and keep them from freezing.  Zelma thinks the room was a hideaway used by the settlers during Indian raids or to fend against deserters during the Civil War. From the attic all sides of the property can be guarded, since it is built on the highest point of the property, resembling a scale fortress.  Two troublesome deserters were hung near Hanby Ford during the Civil War, by residents who had been the victims oil their ruthless plunder.

Stories abound of strange sounds along the Mayo near Hanby Ford - the sounds of wagons coming after the bodies of the deserters. However no one has had a glimpse of the wagons or their drivers.  Linda Vernon said her mother-in-law was picking blackberries one day when she heard a wagon, and thought her family had come to fetch her. But as soon as she reached the road, nothing was there.  When Zelma Scott's mother was at home alone several times she heard the noise of a horse whinnying near the granary, and sometimes a door close.

"We've got to be awful careful," she said, when describing the delicate task of jacking up the old dwelling, using four railroad jacks, and four hand-hewn logs, 20 feet long, that George has crafted himself.  The foundation below the house has to be reworked.

One very warped floorboard separates the main room from the kitchen, a later addition to the house.  "There's no telling how many feet have gone over this," Zelma said.  Under the stairsteps is the only cabinet in the log house, where the settlers probably kept their dram.

Unlike the outside logs, the ones inside the house appear chalk-white.  Zelma said her father and mother would jump in a wagon and ride to a creek where they would dig for white clay.  They concocted a mixture to whitewash the floors and walls of the cabin with to get the dirt and grease out, leaving a grey-white and chalky, clean look to the place.

Another unusual practice was discovered by Zelma's son, John Shumate, in the cellar. Instead of using a chalk line to mark timbers, the early settlers made a dark dye out of pokeberry, which is distinct on some of the cellar beams.

Before Zelma's father died, he told his daughter some stories about his life along the Mayo.  One was about the wedding held for his elder brother, Uncle Tom, where over 60 people, traveling by horse and buggy, feasted on seven cakes, 15 pies, beaver and coon meat.  People living along the Mayo rang the dinner bell whenever an emergency arose  --  sickness, death, or danger.

In notes she took before his death, her father describes his hunchbacked sister, Minnie, as a "beautiful girl with long curls."  she died in the flu epidemic of 1920, at age 40.  Then there was the "single footed bay" mule (meaning only one person could ride it), named Rody, that he rode on his first courting trips.  When Zelma asked her father what color bay was, he said, "That's grey I reckon."

Courting was more successful in the Model T Ford Joyce and his two other brothers got for $400.  On Dec. 27, 1920 he married Mamie Florence Joyce, a cousin. He married her because of her large dowry, he joked.  Her dowry consisted of "A tobacco crop, her high heel, button-top shoes, a phonograph, and a new calf," he said.

Square dances and playing musical instruments on Saturday nights and baseball were the main recreation.

The land where the cabin is built Zelma’s father described as "a scenic place on a rolling knoll down to the river. It really is.