SALUTATIONS
Often, subscribers mention that they have pictures they'd like to share or someone will send details that a map or diagram would quickly clarify. If you will send me a picture that illustrates information you or someone else has provided for us, I'll compile a Taliaferro pictorial every month which may purchased and forwarded via mail. Cost will be calculated on direct cost per issue. I'll post an announcement with a description of the contents each month.
In another year or two, we will probably be able to transfer pictures
as part of a weekly net-letter, but the technology is not perfected and
universal enough to provide pictures via email.
NEW MEMBERS
VAGENEO@aol.com
*****I have been so interested in the copies I have received of the
Taliaferro Times. I had no idea this was such a large involved family.
My husband is a descendant of David Hickerson b. 1751 in Stafford
Co. VA. who married Nancy Taliaferro b. 1756. They were married in
Va. so I would presume she was born there. Some of the Hickerson
researchers say her name was Sarah instead of Nancy. Can any of you
Taliaferro historians throw light on this, I also would be interested in
her parents and ancestors as well as her siblings. I am new in the
Taliaferro research and any help you can give me would be appreciated.
RESPONSES
ELLEN RAFEEDIE (Rafeedie1@aol.com)
*****In response to Kathryn Gaven's inquiry:
My 3GGrandmother, Mary Meriwether Gilmer, b. 6/23/1796 in Rockingham
Co,
VA-d. 7/12/1856, was married to Warren Taliaferro b. about 1760-d.
about 1824. He was the son of Zachariah b. 8/29/1730 and Mary Boutwell,
grandson of John Taliaferro and Sarah Smith.
The house of her father, Thomas Meriwether Gilmer, has been preserved. Although as yet unrestored, it now stands in Washington-Wilkes Co, GA at the Callaway Plantation, a beautifully-restored, still operating plantation which is open to the public. The house was recently featured in a beautiful new book, "Agrarian Arcadia," about Wilkes Co. in the 1850s. Last fall, a Mr. Slayton, the official historian of Washington, took me out to the old homesite of the Gilmers, now completely overgrown and wooded, and we were able to locate the graves of Thomas Meriwether Gilmer and his wife Elizabeth Lewis Gilmer, along with several of their children.
If you are not aware of it, George Rockingham Gilmer, an old-time Governor of Georgia and son of Thomas Meriwether Gilmer, wrote a wonderful, charming history/genealogy about the Goose Pond families entitled Gilmer's Georgians. It covers the intermarriages/relationships/ community of the Taliaferro/Gilmer/Meriwether/Lewis/ Marks/Harvey, etc. families, all Virginians, who relocated to the Goose Pond area (which was originally Wilkes Co, now mostly Oglethorpe Co, GA).
I have pictures of Thomas Meriwether Gilmer's house and grave I will be glad to share. I would very much like to have a picture and history of the sampler.
My records of Elizabeth Smith list her parentage as Maj. Lawrence Smith (of Yorktown) and Mary Debnam, sister of Sarah Katherine Debnam who married Robert Taliaferro and parents of John "the Ranger" Taliaferro. Lawrence Smith's parents were Christopher Smith b. before 1610 in England and Elizabeth Towneley, b. about 1590 d. 1679 (m. 5/3/1624 in Burnley Parish, Lancs, England). I have detailed genealogies of Taliaferros, Towneleys, Gilmers, Meriwethers, and other related families. Their intermarriages were tangled, and relations show up in the most unexpected places.
Hope this helps others. If you have further info, please let me know. I would especially like further info on the Smiths as I am looking for a connection and would like to know who Christopher's siblings were.
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THE PHANTOM (VLTP@aol.com)
****Warren Taliaferro 1760-1815 s/o Zachariah & Mary Boutwell m
1. Mary Peachy Gilmer d/o Dr. George 2. 1802 Mary Meriwether Gilmer
1786-1850 d/0 Thomas & Elizabeth (Lewis) Mary m 2. Nicholas Powers
there were 3 ch with first wife and 4 with second I only have the
following:
Zachariah (eldest) m 1/19/1820 Rebecca Sherrill d/o Samuel & Elizabeth (Thomas) Lucy m 1803 Ishmael Dunn Nancy m..............Landrum Mary Elizabeth "Polly" b3/10/1804 m 1834 Thomas Firth Rainey d1857 s/o Isham Charles Boutwell m Mildred Meriwether d/o Valentine & Barbary Ann Sophia 1814-68 m 9/30/1830 James Bradley Meriwether s/o Nicholas and Mary de Yampert
Reference: "Lost Links" page 451; Supplement "Lewis Meriwether & Kindred Families"by Nelson H. Meriwether
Note: Warren's will proved Oct 1815 Anderson Co, SC -he had 17
slaves in 1810 Zachariah went to Wilson, TN, Lucy Oglethorpe, Ga, Charles
Atlanta, Polly has DAR lineage #124883. Warren named brothers
in law Peachy R. Gilmer and George R. Gilmer in will.
COLONIAL TALIAFERRO
Here is some abstracted information about Dr. John Taliaferro of Orange
Co
VA and Surry Co NC. Dr. John was the ancestor of both Taliaferros
and the large Toliver family of Ashe Co NC that we've been hearing so much
about.
Source: The Heritage of Surry County, North Carolina, Vol. I. Hester Bartlett Jackson, Editor. 1983.
Dr. John (as he is called now to distinguish him from all of the other John Taliaferros) was the second son of Captain Richard and Rose Berryman Taliaferro. He was born on April 7, 1733 in Caroline County VA, and died on April 7, 1821 in Wilkinson Co GA. Mary Hardin Taliaferro is buried in the old Taliaferro-Franklin burial grounds on the estate near Pine Ridge in Surry Co.
Dr. John was a Baptist Minister and a physician. He married Mary Hardin in 1755 and patented his first tract of land in Pittsylvania Co Va in 1769. During the Revolutionary War, he followed Green's Army as a surgeon. He sold his Virginia land in 1779 and moved a few miles south in Surry Co NC. Here, he and his close friend, Bernard Franklin, settled on Little Fisher's River. When he left the county, the land was owned by a grandson, Walter Sylie Lovill and his gggrandson William Shadrack Lovill. Much of the land is still owned by the Lovill family. About 1791, Dr. John moved to Wilkinson co GA where his will was probated in July 1821.
The children of Dr. John and Mary Harden Taliaferro were: Mary,
Richard (killed at the Battle of Guilford Courthouse in 1781), Rose, Elizabeth,
Ann, Charles (his descendants appear to be the Toliver family of Ashe Co
NC), Benjamin, Judith, Bethland, and Lucy.
RESEARCH
JUDY CANANT (AslanJ@aol.com)
*****Descendants of John Hay whose granddaughter married Francis Taliaferro.
1 John Hay b: ABT 1670 --+Mary Wade (Father:
Arminger Wade)
2 Robert Hay b: ABT 1700 --+Rachel
- - -- 3 Elizabeth Hay b: ABT 1735 --+Francis
Taliaferro b: ABT 1730
in of "Epsom" (Father: Lawrence Taliaferro Mother: Sarah Thornton)
----- 4 Ann Hay Taliaferro--+Richard Brooke b: in
of "Smithfield", near
Fredericksburg, VA
-------5 Francis Taliaferro Brooke, Judge b: in St Julian,
below Fredericksburg, VA
-----------+Mary Champe Carter m: ABT 1803, d: October 25, 1846
(Father: Edward
Carter Mother: Sarah Champe)
---------6 Francis Brooke --+Gabriella Ambler b: in Jamestown,
VA
---------6 Helen Brooke--+Robert Hamilton
-----------7 Mary Champe Hamilton--+William Farleigh, Capt
---------*2nd Husband of Helen Brooke: --+Forman m: in they had 3 daughters
-------5 Lawrence Brooke, Dr
-------5 Robert Brooke, Gov VA
----- 4 Francis Taliaferro III b: ABT 1760--+Jane
Jenny Champe Taliaferro b: in ?
of Dissington (Father: John Taliaferro, Sr Mother: Ann Champe)
-------5 Francis Whitaker Taliaferro b: in of Epsom --+Jane
Taliaferro b: ABT 1770
at Blenheim (Father: Robert Taliaferro, Younger Mother: Jane Bankhead)
---------6 Ann Hay Taliaferro b: ABT 1790--+Lawrence Battaile,
Gentleman
b:1766 of "Prospect Hill", Caroline Co, VA -- m: June 10,1799
in Orange Co, VA d:1847
(Father: Lawrence Battaile
Mother: Sarah Robinson
-----------7 Sarah Battaile --+Lewis Battaile (Father: Hay Battaile
Mother: Mary Champe Willis)
------------7 Rachel Battaile--+William McWilliams, Jr
------------7
Lawrence Battaile, The Rev b: in 1st Rector of Old Grace Church,
Corbin, Caroline Co, VA--+Anna Maria Fitzhugh (Father: William
Colville Fitzhugh Mother: Ann Hay Taliaferro)
------------7 Charles Battaile
------------7 Benjamin Robinson Battaile b: in became Dr,
married had descendants
------------7 John Battaile b: 1810 in was Lawyer, moved
to Yazoo, Miss was Judge d: 1849 in Miss - unm
------------7 Francis Whitaker Battaile b: 1812,
d: April 9, 1872--+Eleanor
Madison Catlett b: in of North Garden, Spotsylvania Co, VA (Father:
Lawrence Catlett Mother: Elizabeth Conway)
------------*2nd Wife of Francis Whitaker Battaile:--+Frances White
------------7 Ann Champe Battaile--+Dr Edmund Pendleton
White, b: in Port
Tobago, MD
------------7 Jane Taliaferro Battaile
------------7 William Woodford Battaile b: 1821 d:
February 10, 1873
----------------+Mary J Hendricks
-----------------*2nd Wife of William Woodford Battaile:--+Sallie P
Richards
----------6 Benjamin F Taliaferro b: ABT 1795 in of Fredericksburg
----------6 Matilda Taliaferro b: ABT 1797
----------+William Helm b: ABT 1790
----------6 Elizabeth Taliaferro--+William Stewart b: in
Farquier Co, VA
There is a lot more on Hay in the GVF - I can look up.
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TERRI BOYKIN (taboykin@unity.ncsu.edu)
*****Here's the information on Hiram Taliaferro's descendants.
If this is too long, I can do just Hiram's direct line, but I thought
others might be interested in the siblings' information, such as
it is.
Descendants of: Jesse TALIAFERRO
1 Jesse TALIAFERRO b. 1756 Faquier Co., VA d. 4 Mar 1838 Allegheny Co.,
NC
m. 4 Oct 1782 Frances (Franky) STAMPER b. 14 Feb 1767 Amherst
Co., VA d.
bet
1850-1860 Allegheny Co., NC
2 Jane TALIAFERRO b. 6 Jul 1783 VA
2 Susan TALIAFERRO b. 14 Feb 1785 VA
2 Sara TALIAFERRO b. 9 May 1786 VA
2 John TOLIVER b. 1788 d. 1836
m. 1810 Patsy Anna LONG
2 Martha TALIAFERRO b. 13 Mar 1797 Ashe Co., NC
m. Ashe Co., NC, John G. FENDER b. 13-Mar-1794
d. abt. 1857
3 Charity FENDER b. 8-Dec-1813
m. Thornton JENNINGS b.
1808
3 Allen FENDER b. 8-Apr-1815 d. 5-May-1894
m. 19-Mar-1835 Nancy EDWARDS
b. 1815 d. 1902
3 Frances FENDER b. 6-Mar-1817
m. Thomas MOXLEY b. 1809
3 Sarah FENDER b. 25-Dec-1818
m. ? JENNINGS
3 Nimrod FENDER b. 27-Oct-1820
3 Jesse or Jefferson FENDER b. 2-Oct-1822
3 Jane FENDER b. 1824 d. 1887
m. 30-Jun-1837 William CROUSE
b. 1817
3 Nancy FENDER b. 10-Feb-1826 d. 9-Mar-1860
m. Thomas (Tomps) EDWARDS
b. 1820 d. 1897
3 Susannah FENDER b. 7-Aug-1830
m. David MOXLEY b. 1829
d. 1904
3 Solomon FENDER b. 20-Mar-1834 d. 14-Apr-1894
m. 20-Sep-1855 Charity Lucinda
CHOATE b. 1839 d. 1894
3 Martha S. or Patsy FENDER b. 13-Feb-1836
d. 30-Nov-1892
m. 3-Apr-1851 William Thomas
CHOATE b. 1832 d. 1864
m. 22-Apr-1875 Levi Willey
b. 1812
3 Margaret or Peggy FENDER b. 15-Apr-1837
d. 31-Jan-1898
m. 19-Sep-1854 Joshua Sabret
CHOATE b. 1833 d. 1910
2 Jacob TALIAFERRO b. 26 Jul 1799 VA d. IN
m. Susan ISOM
2 Allen TALIAFERRO b. 18 Jul 1802 d. 16 Mar 1898 Ashe
Co., NC
m. 11-Jun-1829 Lawrence, IN, Susan FINGER
b. 6-Sep-1808 d. 22-Aug-1847
m. 19 Mar 1850 Mahala LASWELL b. 1813 d. 1896
3 Frances TOLIVER
3 John TOLIVER
3 Jesse TOLIVER
3 Joseph TOLIVER
3 Jacob TOLIVER
3 William Bracy TOLIVER
3 Mary Ann TOLIVER
3 Riley TOLIVER
3 George Washington TOLIVER b. 28-Nov-1845
d. 27-Feb-1927
m. 27-Oct-1872 Mary Frances
MILLER b. 1854 d. 1921
3 Catherine TOLIVER
3 Henry C. Toliver
3 Susan Toliver b. _____ d. 1885
2 Solomon TALIAFERRO b. 13 May 1804 Allegheny Co., NC
m. ca. 1830 Margaret Maryan CALLOWAY b. 1800
3 Margaret TOLIVER b. 1831
3 Calvin J. TOLIVER b. 9-Jul-1832 d.
9-Sep-1919
m. 1-May-1882 Elisabeth
Alice COX b. 1859 d. 1941
3 Calaway J. TOLIVER b. 1834 d. 20-Sep-1862
m. 6-Jun-1872 Sarah BURCHETT
3 Melvin B. TOLIVER b. 1836
m. Amanda
3 Malinda TOLIVER b. 18-Jun-1837 d.
15-Feb-1906
m. 1859 George McMillan
(Mack) REEVES b. 1836 d. 1897
3 Alexander TOLIVER b. 1840
m. 7-Jun-1869 Ellen TURNER
b. 1851
3 Granville H. TOLIVER b. 1842 d. 3-Mar-1863
3 Sarah TOLIVER b. 1844
3 Clark TOLIVER b. 1846
3 Creed TOLIVER b. 1846
m. Susan
2 Starling TALIAFERRO b. 13 Mar 1806 Wilkes Co., NC
m. 3 Dec 1829 Nelly SPURLIN b. 1810
3 Jacob TOLIVER b. 17-Feb-1831 d. 1887
m. 1-Oct-1851 Matilda HIGGINS
b. 1829
m. 3-Apr-1882 Caroline Cheek
b. 1849 d. 1927
3 Francis TOLIVER b. 1834
3 Calvin TOLIVER b. 1836
3 Andrew TOLIVER b. 1840
3 Solomon TOLIVER b. 1842
3 Polly TOLIVER b. 1846
3 John TOLIVER b. 1848
m. 24-Mar-1870 Caroline
ROBERTS b. 1851
3 Margaret TOLIVER b. 7-Dec-1851 d.
6-Mar-1909
m. 2-Dec-1869 Clark Swift
ROBERTS b. 1848 d. 1917
3 Rose Ann TOLIVER b. 9-Mar-1853 d.
28-Dec-1938
m. 28-Oct-1869 J. Wesley
DUNCAN b. 1848 d. 1884
m. 15-May-1885 David R.
Duncan b. 1859 d. 1949
2 Hiram TOLLIVER or Hyrum TALIAFERRO b. 10-Mar-1808 Ashe
Co., NC d.
27-Dec-1895 WV
m. 15 Sep 1831 , NC, Nancy Ellen HILL b. [1808]
d. [Feb 1889]
m. 23-Oct-1873 Phoebe Barton b. 2-May-1814
d. 20-Aug-1901
[Note: Hiram and Nancy moved to Slab Fork, Wyoming Co., WV, about
1850-1856
--"Families of Wyoming County,
WV" newsletter, vol 5:2]
3 Allen S. TOLLIVER b. 1832 Ashe Co.,
NC
m. 6 Oct 1853 Ashe Co.,
NC Nancy HILL
[Note: Allen and Nancy moved to Slab Fork, Wyoming
Co., WV, about
1860-1867--"Families of Wyoming County, WV" newsletter, vol
5:2]
3 Martha TOLLIVER b. 1834 Ashe Co.,
NC
m. 26 Dec 1858 Wyoming Co.,
NC, John EVANS
3 John TOLLIVER b. 1835 Ashe Co., NC
3 Jesse TOLLIVER b. 1837 Ashe Co., NC
d. 4 July 1888 Wyoming Co., NC
m. 8 Sept 1859 Wyoming Co.,
NC, Harriet Ann TERRY
m. 1 Apr 1882 LaMaudia MEADOWS
b. Sept 1839
3 Stephen Alan TOLLIVER b. 29-Dec-1838
Ashe Co., NC d. 17-Feb-1928
m. 8-Jul-1863 Wyoming Co.,
NC, Rebecca BIRCHFIELD b. 21-Apr-1845 d.
31-Mar-1903
m. ca. 1904 Sarah E. ?
3 Enoch TOLLIVER b. 1841 Ashe Co., NC
m. 6 Feb 1865 Wyoming Co.,
NC, Anna SHORT
3 Thursey TOLLIVER b. 1843 Ashe Co.,
NC
m. 23 Oct 1863 Tollison
SCHUMATE
Sources: Site visits to cemeteries; "Index to Births in Wyoming County,"
"Families of Wyoming County, WV" newsletter, vol 5:2, NC State Archives;
1880 Wyoming Co., WV, Census; 1870 NC Census Index; "Ashe County Heritage;"
"Heritage of Allegheny County;" notes on file from Eleanor Tolliver Waters
at NC State Archives; "1774 Surry County Taxables;" "1775 Surry County
Taxables;" "DAR Patriot Index" lists both Jesse Taliaferro and father-in-law
Jonathan STAMPER.
MISCELLANY
LORETTE CHOQUETT-ZALE (TwoZales@aol.com) Following the story of
Major Lawrence Taliaferro in the last issue, there was a conversation between
Lorette and our favorite Phantom which resulted in 'the rest of the story.'
Does anyone have knowledge of a Woodbury family? They may be Taliaferro
descendants.
*****Major Lawrence Taliaferro had no children with his wife Elizabeth
Dillon, but he had a daughter. This fact is clearly stated in The
Lawrence Taliaferro Papers, published by the Minnesota Historical Society
in St. Paul, and is stated as follows:
"Sometime in the l820's, Taliaferro formed a liaison with an unnamed Sioux half-breed woman. During the summer of l828, their daughter Mary--Taliaferro's only child--was born at St. Peters. She seems to have grown up near the agency and Taliaferro sent her to the Lake Harriet Mission School. Taliaferro represented her claim as a half-breed for annuities and land under the treaty of l837, and after he left the agency arranged for her to live in the home of missionaries. She later married Warren Woodbury, a Fort Snelling soldier who was killed in the Civil War. Although Taliaferro acknowledged his daughter, he never married her mother..."
I am also aware that Lawrence's daughter Mary was held captive, a fact also written about in The Lawrence Taliaferro Papers and written as follows:
"The Crow, in a speech at Redwood, in sparing the lives of one or two families, Mrs. Woodbury and children being of the number, said: "I did not wish to go to war, but my young men forced me to it; we have begun and must do the best we can. I spare the lives of some of you for the sake of our good old Father, Mah-sa-busca (here referring the Lawrence Taliaferro); his words are this day in my ears; had he been here this would not have been." Mrs. Woodbury is our authority for the Crow's remarks, when all supposed that they would be murdered..."(The war referred to here was not a war between the Indians and the white men, but a war between Indian tribes).
My submission that appeared in this week's Taliaferro Times (Volume 1, Number 28) was quite lengthy and took up two and one-half pages of this week's available space. I had planned on writing a second submission for possible inclusion in the Taliaferro Times, specifically about Lawrence's daughter Mary. In responding to your letter to me, I guess this is what I have accomplished. Unfortunately, I have not yet been able to find any further information about Mary Woodbury and her descendants. I would be delighted to learn more about her and her family since we are related through Lawrence Taliaferro.
It is my hope that Joyce Browning might consider the above information for inclusion in a future issue of the Taliaferro Times. I know that, since she has already provided me with very generous space in this week's issue, it might be take awhile before it is my "turn" again.
Again, thank you for your response to my Major Lawrence Taliaferro article
and for our mutual desire that Mary be included in the Taliaferro family.
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28 February 1998
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