Taliaferro Times, Issue 21-1

TALIAFERRO/TOLIVER TIMES Volume I, April 16, 1997 Issue 21-1

SALUTATIONS

We're about five months old now and have 130 subscribers. We've faced and tried to solve some of the problems in the history of this well-reported family; and we made really good progress in the discovery line. I still have some new information sent in by subscribers to put together coherently.

Without your active, positive contributions, TT would fold and our unanswered questions, both present and future, would be no more than that -- unanswered questions. Thanks so much - we are truly blazing new trails in the history of the Taliaferro family.

To those of you who reached back in long forgotten files, discovered and typed the information you found to share with this group, many, many thanks from all of us. I know there's more a'moldering in somebody's files, so please rediscover what you've forgotten.
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VOLUNTEER NEEDED: Is there a volunteer who be willing to begin constructing a GEDCOM file on the Taliaferro family based on information we now have before us. Once the file is established, maintenance would require less time; the big crunch would be at the beginning. If you'll get in touch with me, we'll set up the criteria so that the project can begin soon with the first three generations, plus children of Robert and Katherine (Debnam) Taliaferro. Your suggestions for criteria will be appreciated.
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JO4CATS@aol.com sent word of a genealogy class, already underway, but apparently an ongoing activity of Eastman's Genealogy Newsletter. *****I found a site on the web where you can sign up for on line genealogy classes for free. They also list other classes that may be helpful to some. The address is:
http://www.vu.org/register.html It is sponsored by Compuserve but you do not have to belong to compuserve to take advantage of the classes.

RESPONSES

JEAN KYRLACH (JKyrlach@aol.com) ***After reading Anne Baker's family line concerning the Harrisons, I realized that MOTT was also in my line:

Ellen MOTT d/o of George (1625-1674) and Elizabeth MOTT (1645-1697) who m 2nd James Harrison,
      Ellen MOTT m Richard SHIPPY, Gent. (d. 1708), Richmond Co.,VA
      Their daughter, Elizabeth SHIPPY (1690-1756) m.James HACKLEY (1690-1748)
      Their son, John HACKLEY (d.1760) m Judith BALL (d. c1773) . She was the d/o
       Samuel BALL (d.1751) and Anna Catherina BALL.
      Their daughter, Anne HACKLEY m. 1761 Peter TALIAFERRO (b.12 Feb 1740, d. probably in Lincoln Co., KY where he had 400 acres of land in Jul., 1780)
        Peter was the s/o Richard TALIAFERRO and Rose BERRYMAN.
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JUDY CONANT (AslanJ@aol.com)
Hello Weldon - While readingTaliaferro Times, I noticed your query. I have looked in the data base, and I did find one tiny clue. I wish it could be more. Below is the line of Madison family and you will notice a Willis girl whose middle name is Bankhead. Her mother was one of the children of Jane Bankhead and Robert Taliaferro that you did not name. It is in Genealogies of VA Families. Hope it helps even a tiny bit.

Descendants of John Madison

1 John Madison
-+Isabel Minor Todd
2   Henry Madison   d: Bef August 1757
-- 3   Henry Madison b: ABT 1744 in he chose Roger Madison as his guardian
-- 3   Isabel Madison b: Bef 1757 in She chose Tscharner deGraffenread as her guardian
-- 3   Elizabeth Madison b: Bef 1757
----+Josiah Jackson m: April 1, 1790
2   Roger Madison   d: in He did not die in1755 - was still living 1769
--+Elizabeth Taliaferro b: Aft 1710 m: Aft 1740 Father: Robert Taliaferro Mother: Margaret French
-- 3   Elizabeth Madison
----+Moore
-- 3   Frances Madison
----+Collins
-- 3   Margaret French Madison
-- 3   Ambrose Madison
-- 3   Mary Madison b: Aft 1740
----+Richard Collins m: Aft 1760
-- 3   Ann Madison b: ABT 1753
----+Henry Cox m: April 5, 1773 in Charlotte Co, VA
2   Thomas Madison
2   Ambrose Madison b: March 14, 1674/75 in Caroline Co, Va d: June 26, 1729 in Orange Co, VA (Culpeper)
--+Frances (Elizabeth?) Taylor b: August 30, 1700 in Hanover Co, VA d:
    November 25, 1761 Father: James Taylor, Col & Burgess, Orange Co Militia
Mother: Martha Thompson
-- 3 Dau Madison
----+Camp
----- 4   George Camp
-- 3 James Madison, Sr b: March 27, 1722 in Montpelier, O, VA   d: February 27, 1801
----+Eleanor "Nelly" Rose Conway b: January 9, 1731/32 in Port Conway, VA - name "Heath" also found for Eleanor(?) m: September 15, 1749 in they also had 4 other children d: February 11, 1829 in ?    (was she kin t o March family?????)
Father: Francis Conway Mother: Rebecca Catlett
----- 4   Mollie Madison b: Aft 1749 d: Aft 1777
------+William Davis b: Aft 1729
----- 4   James Madison, President US b: March 16, 1749/50 in Port Conway, VA d:
                                     June 28, 1836 in Washington, DC (Orange Co, VA?)
------+Dorothea "Dolly" Payne b: May 20, 1768 m: September 15, 1794 in Harewood, Jefferson Co, VA d:
                        Aft 1799
----- 4   Ambrose Madison b: 1755
-------5   Ambrose Madison b: ABT 1795
-------+Jane Bankhead Willis b: 1803 m: in 6 children d: 1862
                           Father: William Champe Willis Mother: Lucy Taliaferro
----- 4   Catlett Madison b: 1758
----- 4   Eleanor "Nellie" Conway Madison b: February 14, 1760 d: December 24, 1802
------+Major Isaac Hite, Jr. b: 1756 m: January 2, 1783 d: 1836
----- 4   William Madison b: May 5, 1762
-------5   Elizabeth Madison b: ABT 1790 in niece of President Madison
-------+Lewis Willis b: ABT 1790   Father: William Champe Willis Mother: Lucy Taliaferro
-- 3 Elizabeth Madison b: Aft 1734
----+John Willis b: Bef 1734 d: in died young Father: Henry Willis, Col Mother: Mildred Washington
----- 4   Mary Willis
------+Col William Daingerfield b: in of Coventry
    *2nd Husband of Elizabeth Madison:
----+Col Richard Beale
----- 4   Anne Beale
------+John W Willis, Maj m: in 3 daughters Father: Col Lewis Willis Mother: Mary Champe
2 Daughter Madison b: ABT 1700
--+Camp b: ABT 1700 Father: Thomas Camp I Mother: Catherine (Barrow?) Barron
-- 3 Ambrose? Camp b: ABT 1725
2 John Madison, Jr b: Bef 1714
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(MAPURDY16@aol.com) *****If Zachariah was born in 1735, it stands to reason that Richard (whom I did not have up to now) could well have been born before the date given.

Descendants of Richard Taliaferro

1   Richard Taliaferro b: ABT 1700 in Powhatan VA
-+Rose Berryman
2   Zachariah Taliaferro b: ABT 1735
--+Mary Boutwell
-- 3   Benjamin Taliaferro b: ABT 1760
----+Martha Meriwether
----- 4   Thornton Taliaferro b: ABT 1790
------+Mary Ann Christmas Green
------- 5   Sarah Ann Taliaferro b: ABT 1815
--------+Dr Witten Peter Tayor
----------6   Marie Thornton Tayor b: ABT 1850
----------+Alonzo Stainback Elliott
---------- 7   Sarah Louis Elliott b: ABT 1880
------------+Louis George Richter, Sr
--------------8   Louis George Richter, Jr
--------------+Clarice Minetta Leaver
----- 4   Richard Taliaferro, (possibly fits here) b: ABT 1790
------+Alice Berry b: ABT 1798   Father: Washington Berry Mother:
        Alice Taylor
------- 5 Alice Taliaferro b: ABT 1818
------- 5 Anne Taliaferro b: ABT 1820

TALIAFERROS OF EUROPE

As a followup to the Lanier discovery, I've received some tremendous information on related families: Bernard, Corderoy, and Ironmonger heretofore unknown. this will be compiled to pass along to you as soon as I can - probably about two weeks. [Am taking off for 4 or 5 days to visit some my old homeland in the gentle, beautiful Sauratown Mountains with new-found cousins.]

When I was deeply into the study of the Taliaferro family with my friend Spotswood Taliaferro twenty years ago, I compiled information about the Gloucester neighborhood where Robert Taliaferro established his first home, where he married Katherin Debnam and most of their children were born. Bernards, Corderoys, and Ironmongers populated this neighborhood. It's interesting to discover that it wasn't accidental at all.

COLONIAL TALLIAFERROS

Source: Old New Kent County. Dr. Malcolm Harris. 1978

THE TALIAFERRO FAMILY OF HOCKLEY

John Taliaferro, the Ranger, married Sarah, daughter of Col. Lawrence Smith, of Gloucester County. He was born in 1656 and died in 1744. He was Sheriff of Essex County, and in 1699 was a member of the House of Burgesses.

The eleventh child of John Taliaferro was William Taliaferro who before 1735 was living in Stratton Major Parish, where he was a vestryman in 1735. He married Katherine Hay. He was a processioner in the precinct of Stratton Major Parish which lay between Matasip Swamp and Peptico Creek, which area included the "Hockley" plantation. William Taliaferro died in 1760, and left a will which disposed of his large estate.

*****Will of William Taliaferro, dated 10 November 1760
To son William, 600 acres in King & Queen Co., whereon I live and 150 acres bought of John Richards; L230 in cur. money to purchase the land now belonging to John Waller.

To son Richard, lands at Shepherd's warehouse with 290 acres known as Church Quarter. 200 lbs to be paid by Mr. Hos. Rootes for rent of the last four years for land at Shepherd's warehouse and L170 in the hands of Mr. Lawrence Taliaferro of Caroline County.

To son Philip Taliaferro, lands called Mount Poney (Orange Co.), 900 acres purchased of James Witherspoon, David Alexander, and Thomas Sowell.

To daughter, Mary Booth, two negroes (now in possession of Mr. George Booth) and L300, which is the balance of L500 to her & and her heirs forever.

Testator loans to Gabriel Throckmorton for life the plantation whereon he now lives, 100 acres, to work his negroes, without rent, and after his death to revert to testator's son P. Taliaferro.

Residue of estate to be equally divided among three sons, William, Richard, and Philip Taliaferro, when son William comes of age.

Executors: Sons William and Richard Taliaferro and George Booth.****

William Taliaferro had died before the vestry meeting on November 24, 1760, less than two weeks after making his will, which was dated November 10, 1760.

There was no mention of his wife, who had predeceased him.

William Taliaferro, Jr., was named a vestryman in the parish and was sworn into office in September 1762. It is evident that he had come of age. In 1769, William Taliaferro was named in the Commission of Peace. He contributed materials for the use of the Continental Army.

It has been stated that he married Elizabeth Holden.

The brother, Richard Taliaferro, moved to Gloucester County, where he died in 1790, having been a vestryman in the Parish of Petsworth in 1785. His will, made in 1786, named a son William Taliaferro, wife Elizabeth, and executors: Philip Taliaferro and Zachariah Shakleford.

Phillip Taliaferro, son of William Taliaferro, Jr., of "Hockley," was elected to the Vestry of Stratton Major Parish in 1775. He had been assigned a seat in the "New Church" in 1767. He was elected to the House of Delegates in 1780, was a Justice in King and Queen County in 1784, Sheriff in 1791, and John Wedderburn was his deputy.

Philip Taliaferro married Sarah Baytop in 1770. They had Dr. William Taliaferro, who married Mary Throckmorton, and after her death, Sarah Smith; James Baytop Taliaferro; Rev. Philip Taliaferro, George Taliaferro; Richard Taliaferro; Thomas Taliaferro; John Taliaferro; Sarah Taliaferro; and Mary Taliaferro.

James Baytop Taliaferro, son of Philip Taliaferro and Sarah Baytop, was born at "Hockley" on 14 April 1775. He married Catherine, daughter of George Booth and Mary Taliaferro, his wife of Gloucester County. James Baytop Taliaferro moved to "Roaring Spring," and in 1856, his heirs sold the Hockley plantation to the Spencers.

HOCKLEY PLANTATION

This tract has long been identifiable in the old records. It was granted to Ashwell Batten on the 3rd of April 1651, on the north side of the York River, described as lying in York County, and extending along Perrin's Creek which divides this land from that of John Perrin.

Note of general interest from Dr.Harris' book:

THE INDIAN OSSUARY

About twenty-five years ago (ca 1955), it was reported that the high tides had left human bones in view along the York River about two hundred yards above the Bellevue house. The permission of the owner and the services of the Smithsonian Institute were obtained and in all, fifty-seven skeletal remains of Algonquin Indians were removed from a shallow ossuary, and placed in the Smithsonian Institute. This was the first large ossuary (secondary burial ground) found in the area. Since then, a lone Indian grave was found on Goffe Point, and his skeleton was also removed and taken to the Smithsonian
Institute.

RESEARCH

BETTY ANN SMIDDY (103107.3363@CompuServe.COM) *****Source: The Kentucky Explorer, April 1997, Vol. 11 #10 p. 98 Genealogy From the Long Ago (1890's) McKinney Col. John McKinney and his wife, Sarah Taliaferro, had five children, one son (John) and four daughters. Jane married Nathaniel Wise, of Virginia; Agnes Bodine married Hubbard Taylor Berry, of Newport, Kentucky; Sallie Banket married Francis Taliaferro Helm; Mary married John Taliaferro. The son John (afterward Judge John McKinney) married Augusta Mayo, of Newport. Col. McKinney was a widower when he came to Newpport, but afterward married the widow of Edmund Taylor, by whom he had one son named Monroe, who died young. Col. McKinney had numerous descendants in the vicinity of Covington and Newport. The Wises, Helms, and Berrys are his great-grandchildren. His son, Judge McKinney, has one child living, Mrs. Mary V. Terrel, of Des Moines, Iowa. The above is correct, as my father was a grandson. (Note: no other information given)
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CHARLEEN OERDING (hotomy@teleport.com) *****Just purchased some VA books.

St. Paul's Parish Register 1715-1798_ compiled b John Bailey Calvert Nicklin. (Stafford and King George Counties)

D. Robert Taliaferro, June 6, 1726. M. Richard Taliaferro of Essex and Rose Berryman of King George, June 10, 1726. M. Frances Taliaferro and Kenelm Cheseldine (I swear that's her name in this book!), Aug. 9, 1768. M. John Taliaferro and Lucy Alexander, Jan 24, 1774. M. Lawrence Taliaferro and Sarah Dade, Feb. 3, 1774.

In a list of King George Co. marriages copied from Fee books kept by the County Clerk: there is a Margaret Kerby Cheseldine who married Swanson Lunceford between Oct. 1774 and Oct. 1775. Have never heard that Cheseldine name before!

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